[thelist] WYSIWYG x-browser design - is it a reality?

I certainly code everything by hand now (although I use CFStudio),
although I didn't always.

<confession>
I actually used FrontPage for a whole site (60+pages). In my defense, it
was 5 years ago.
</confession>

I think that hand-coding is cleaner, and provides much better code than
anything that is "generated". I think that an editor that colour-codes
certain sections of the HTML makes it easier to edit, and to catch
syntax errors immediately, rather than when it makes sphagetti of your
page.

Glenn Hunt
ghunt@hds.ca

> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin@lists.evolt.org 
> [mailto:thelist-admin@lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of spinhead
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: thelist@lists.evolt.org
> Subject: Re: [thelist] WYSIWYG x-browser design - is it a reality?
> 
> 
> Well, as usual, I left out half the description of the issue 
> (and STILL got lots of meaningful feedback; evolt = Karnak)
> 
> The marketing folks won't just be tweaking a bit of text here 
> and there - they're planning on building a databased online 
> ordering system and reconfiguring the entire site to work 
> with it. Our VP of Marketing seems to know what Ultradev is 
> (not saying he knows how to use it) but I'm still hoping 
> they'll take it and keep it, rather than taking it, breaking 
> it, and asking me to make it work.
> 
> Minor tangent: he seemed astonished that I do virtually all 
> my work by hand with a text editor (TextPad, actually.) He's 
> under the impression the 'real professionals' don't do 
> anything by hand, or at least, not much. Comments?
> 
> spinhead
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt" <mspiegler@lightbulbpress.com>
> To: <thelist@lists.evolt.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 6:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [thelist] WYSIWYG x-browser design - is it a reality?
> 
> 
> > One of the nice things about Dreamweaver is that you can 
> set up blocks 
> > of
> text
> > as library items, and then have the non-coders edit the 
> library items
> directly.
> > It basically means that they won't even have to touch the 
> majority of 
> > the
> code
> > and can just type in their inspirational marketing messages without 
> > fear.
> And
> > if they screw up something, it will be localized to the 
> Library item 
> > and there's much less risk of their deleting a </TABLE> tag and 
> > blowing the
> whole
> > page or something. It will take a little more time to setup 
> initially 
> > but
> will
> > be worth it.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > spinhead wrote:
> >
> > > An axe just fell. Not 'THE' axe, but an axe nonetheless. The VP of
> Marketing
> > > just popped by to let me know that we need to get him 
> connected to 
> > > the
> web
> > > server so he and his team can take over maintenance via 
> Dreamweaver.
> > >
> > > That's fine with me, as long as I'm not expected to make it work 
> > > when it doesn't. I mentioned that a certain amount of 
> hand-tweaking 
> > > was
> inevitable,
> > > and he said that at his last company (he was VPM there as 
> well) he 
> > > built
> an
> > > entire site using FrontPage and had no problems with 
> cross browser 
> > > implementation. I think he's clueless about web design, but maybe 
> > > it's
> me.
> > >
> > > On a scale of your choosing, how close can Dreamweaver come to 
> > > creating
> true
> > > x-browser code in the hands of a non-technical person?
> > >
> > > spinhead
> > >
> 
> 
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